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July 2004—Fear
of Hell Might Fire Up the Economy
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Fear of Hell letter
#5 |
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| Author: |
Garry Shilson-Josling, economist,
Australian Associated Press, Sydney |
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| Date Posted: |
March 23, 2005 |
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| Comments: |
As a professional economist, I am dismayed
that you have not properly explained why the entire original analysis
was excised from this article. Your readers, and the readers of
numerous web sites referring to the article, deserve better.
The original article simply misconstrued the rank correlations
between corruption and belief in hell. In the corruption data published
with the article, the highest rank of 1 was given to the most "corrupt"
nation (Nigeria), while the highest hell-believing rank of 1 was
given to the LEAST hell-believing nation (Latvia). The negative
correlation between these two indicators actually implied a positive
correlation between corruption and belief in hell (and therefore
a negative correlation between religious belief and per-capita GDP).
This is the exact opposite of the original claim made by
your researchers, and STILL implied by the introduction to the revised
article as well as its title. I have checked the original data,
as well as larger data-sets across different time periods from the
same sources.
The results are clear: ceteris paribus, fervent belief in hell
and corruption go hand-in-hand. The USA and Ireland are outliers
rather than typical hell-believing, wealthy nations as claimed in
the article as first published.
Perhaps believers should consider how to stop wealth eroding spirituality
rather than claiming spirituality brings material rewards. In any
case, please do the right thing and set the record straight. |
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| Editor's Note: |
A professional economist should be
aware of the difference between simple correlations and regression
results. As stated in the editor's note accompanying the online
version of the article, the original version of the article used
simple correlations to illustrate serious regression results found
in work by Barro and McCleary.
It turns out, however, that the simple correlations are not consistent
with the regression results. This has absolutely no bearing on the
validity of the regression results, however, which are the results
to be taken seriously. |
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Fear of Hell letter
#4 |
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| Author: |
Ben Seymour of Minneapolis |
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| Date Posted: |
Aug. 27, 2004 |
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| Comments: |
Revision number two of the article
concludes: "In a paper last year, economists Robert Barro and
Rachel McCleary provided evidence that church attendance and economic
growth are negatively related, but a belief in hell—their
measure of religious beliefs—was positively related to increased
economic growth." So the article could have just as well been
titled: Church Attendance Might Chill Economy. Seems like you were
trying to dress this thing up a bit.
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Fear of Hell letter
#3 |
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| Author: |
Mark Jensen, U.S. Army, Jacksonville,
Fla. |
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| Date Posted: |
Aug. 27, 2004 |
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| Comments: |
There are some glaring omissions and
logical problems with the recent report written by Kevin Kliesen
and Frank Schmid that explores the possibility that a nation's religion
or belief in hell contributes to its per capita income. The most
glaring omissions were puritan Islamic countries like Pakistan,
Malaysia and Iran. I can imagine that the Pakistani income levels
would not fit very neatly in the per capita progression illustrated
at the top of the pyramid of true believers. In addition to the
omission of Islamic countries who most assuredly believe in hell,
where do countries who spend their GDP on religious wars fall into
your charts and graphs?
I just spent 10 months fighting in Afghanistan, where I can assure
you that the majority of the population believes in hell but also
enjoys an unprecedented level of civil corruption and spends all
of their spare cash on weapons (both on a personal level and governmental).
While I will concede that Islamic countries may be the exception
due to their prohibition of usury, you cannot deny that the cost
of wars inspired by religion surely "cancel out" the per
capita gains that you think come from fearing hell. |
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| Editor's Note: |
Mr. Jensen is quite right about the possibility
that the research linking religiosity and growth might not be accounting
for all of the important variables. In fact, in a summary of their
research,
Barro and McCleary note that their data sample tends to include more
rich and Christian countries than would be representative of the countries
of the world. |
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Fear of Hell letter #2 |
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Gabriel Jim, an engineer from Norman, Okla., who works
for a government contractor (information systems) |
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| Date Posted: |
Aug. 27, 2004 |
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| Comments: |
I am amazed and pleased you published this article. It does not
surprise me people who believe in hell are more honest, prudent and
concerned about their workmanship than those who do not believe in
hell. For if one believes in hell, then it is highly likely one believes
in God. The more people there are who believe in God, the more likely
you are to find workers who won't grumble, won't lie, won't cheat
nor steal, and will even take a loss instead of unjust gain. The outcome
for society if people believed in God and hell is an honest culture
in which people treat others as they want to be treated, people value
craftsmanship, and people desire or try to be good stewards (or investors)
over the talents, resources and tasks God has given them. |
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Fear of Hell letter #1 |
| Author: |
Ryan C. Floyd, bank vice president from
Duluth, Ga. |
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| Date Posted: |
Aug. 27, 2004 |
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| Comments: |
What an interesting article! Thank you for taking time to look
at this "unconventional" approach to our nation’s
economic condition. Can you separate God and economics? We try to.
In fact, America has come a long way in separating God from most
everything, including church! Does the secularization hypothesis
make sense? Sure it does. As our wealth increases, we are becoming
our own gods. Money has become our masters! (Sounds a lot like Matthew
6:24.) The smarter and wealthier we become, we tend to think there
is no longer a need for a Deity in our lives we can’t see
or touch. Here is an unconventional approach to our topic. Is our
growing Godless society negatively impacting our current economic
condition?
The answer is yes. What a concept that Adam Smith had by saying,
“In societies where there is a widespread belief in God, the
values of honesty and integrity are more prevalent.” How can
we as a nation not see that, as we become more of a greedy, dishonest,
self-serving, self-deity, Godless society, that our economic state
is not deteriorating? |
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